I was able to sit down with Tom Collins for an interview on Sunday. It took me a couple days to get it edited but I’m ready to post it. Tom was a really great guy who was willing to sit down with me for about an hour. It was a great opportunity. He’s had an interesting life and has some great stories.
How about we start by you telling me about yourself?
Tom Collins, El Jabel, Colorado. I graduated from San Jose State in wildlife conservation. No jobs in Colorado, headed to Wyoming. Lived in aspen for 12 years, basalt for 18 years. 7 years in El Jabel.
What’s the make/model of your vehicle?
Ford F-250 - through my job I’m always driving brand new Land Rovers. When I was doing Toyota road trials, I was driving new FJs. This is my work truck. I do have an old Ford Bronco, and an old Toyota Pick Up. Motorcycles: KLR 650 and a KTM 525. I have more then an abundance of vehicles.
What sparked your interest in overlanding?
When I was a kid, we were always camping. Wandering backroads in northern California, going deer hunting. I had a wide variety of vehicles, everything from pick-ups to old Jeeps. I just kind of grew up with it, exploring - Sierras, Coast Range, over by Bishop and all those places. It just kind of grew and grew and it never left me. Then I got into motorcycles and just started exploring further. I worked for Santa Clara County doing mosquito abatement and we had swamp trucks. I worked for the state park system and there was an always an abundance of trucks to drive.
My dad always hated motorcycles so naturally I wanted to race them until I was 18. The Bay Area was home to the best mile and half mile riders. Then I saw the international motocross riders and it was the perfect combination of man and machine. Then I just bought a bike and carried on. Now I just do it for fun. I had a blast racing. Met some great people. It’s just like the overland crowd - everyone is friendly and it’s a good time.
You know about the motorcycles, we do about 100 miles of single track in a day. I’ve never really done a long trip on one. I’ve strapped sleeping bags and gone elk hunting. I’ve never gone to Central America.
What was your first vehicle?
It actually was a 2-WD 1958 Chevy pick up - V8 with a 4 speed. I put a big block of marble in it and drove it all over the back roads of Telluride and Aspen. I got it ridiculously stuck in Bodie, California. I got stuck a lot, there were holes in the oil pan and the wheels were splayed out. I had a pick up topper and I took it to Mexico too. I took it to Mazatlan and we drove all over the beaches. One of my friends had an FJ truck and we drove that thing all over. We went down into parts of Baja, but nothing super rough. I took a lot of motorcycles down into Baja, we took some down to pre-scout the Baja 1000. I was able to race for Ford in an F150 and we finished second in our mechanical class. Most of the other vehicles, Ford Bronco, Jeeps, it was all short trips, 4 wheeling trips on the passes in Colorado. All the other experience lead to the Great Divide expedition in 1989. I took it to Bill Baker. All along to the great divide as close as we could drive on legal roads.
At the end of the Great Divide, we did have a corporate jet setting in Pueblo waiting to fly the journalists out. We drove all the Great Divide trucks out onto the tarmac and then poof they were heading back to New York and LA.
I had a brand new Great Divide Range Rover so I could prepare the Road Book. I had 35,000 miles on it and I think 24,000 were dirt roads.
What’s the most memorable experience you’ve had in your vehicle?
The one that scared me the most was I was on the light hill right across the street from my house. I was deer hunting that day and I had my Camel car. I turned to go down a ridge I normally hunted on but I turned down one ridge too soon. I didn’t have my chains on but I should have. I noticed I was on the wrong ridge but I had already tipped over the ledge. I went into reverse and the tires spun and the snow turned into ice and the car shot like a toboggan. The car started going sideways and hit a small rock, and it tipped over. There was a 300 foot ledge on my left and I opened the door and it stood up like a kick stand. I crawled out, ran up the hill. I used the 20 foot rope and winched myself up the hill. Then I went home and had a beer. The door was fine too.
What’s your favorite region/trail/location to drive?
You know, I love driving in Moab. It’s so much fun, there’s all kinds of challenges. There are trails that aren’t difficult but are beautiful. I can get trails that are god awful hard and you need a really capable vehicle. I can get sand too. For pure beauty, I love Colorado as well. I told this at the slide show last night but during the G4 Challenge, everyone said Colorado – my back yard. For Land Rover Trek we have made rafts out of 55-gallon drums and had races. You have to put a car on the raft, pull it across and winch it up the hill.
Can you tell me a little more about the process of making the Camel Trophy team?
I was working construction - a carpenter. My wife was a dental hygienist. Her boss traveled all over and brought back Australian overlanding magazines. In between patients he would come out and ask me if I wanted to go with him. One day I was reading a magazine, saw an article about the Camel Trophy and said, “this is me”. Then I read Gary Westcott’s article and found out there was a US team. One day I went to the Eagles Club in Aspen and saw the Camel Trophy - 1984 Borneo on ESPN. I pointed to the TV and said “that’s me”. Half of them said “Yeah TC” and the others said “No way”.
They flew me down to Denver for the interview. I didn’t think they would believe all the stuff I was doing so I brought photos. I was riding moto cross, river rafting, and bare backing broncos at the rodeos 3 days a week. I even brought my short course speed skiing certificate - I took 2nd place in the country. That was a fluke - I tried it once and didn’t have a fancy downhill suit. From that dentist, he gave me some books from all the passes and he really pushed me to do it.
The guy believed me and everything. I didn’t hear from anyone for a while. Then he told me I made it and I could go to trials. That year they didn’t have a big budget so they didn’t have US trials so they flew us to Europe and we did trials at the International Trials. I ended up making the team with Don Floyd (who had tried out the year before). The 20 countries represented the countries where Camel Trophy outerwear was sold. They brought in the US to really make it a ‘world’ competition’.